My Friend Aaron

(rorz.io)

237 points | by sarreph 3 hours ago

28 comments

  • sarreph 1 hour ago
    OP here - longtime HN user. I submitted this story to a writing contest a few months back, but didn’t hear anything from them.

    I posted it here on a punt and getting front page of HN is 10x the feeling any writing contest could give me!

    Thanks to all who read and commented, and glad to hear it resonates with some of you!

    • xp84 28 minutes ago
      You're a great writer. I haven't read a lot recently, but this was the type of story that I really could not stop reading.

      I also didn't see that it said "This is a short story" at the top, so I read more than half thinking it was nonfiction. Heh.

    • raajg 8 minutes ago
      Couldn't stop reading! It's been an embarrassingly long amount of time since I got hooked to something like this. Keep going!
    • suriyaG 1 hour ago
      This is incredibly well written had me hooked till the end (probably because I thought it was a real life incident. :)
    • BrunoBernardino 30 minutes ago
      Congratulations! As someone who's written (micro and short) fiction for many years, I _feel_ how hard it is to get someone to read it. Enjoy it!
    • herbertl 11 minutes ago
      I really enjoyed this! Thank you for writing and sharing.
    • madradavid 1 hour ago
      My god, for a minute there I thought this was real.. This resonates, I bet a number of us know or Are an “Aaron”. Thanks for this.
      • xp84 23 minutes ago
        I'll admit, I was really hoping the end was going to be like, "And that's how Aaron Kalshi created a £XX billion company."
        • raajg 8 minutes ago
          THIS!
    • suprfnk 57 minutes ago
      Very well written! I haven't read such a long piece on the internet for quite a while but this hooked me immediately, and kept me hooked.

      Breath of fresh air between all the AI """writing""".

    • jimbob45 47 minutes ago
      Why make him #5 in WoW of all games? Arena has never been that prestigious and most players primarily engaged in PvE rather than PvP, which didn’t have such rankings.
  • JohnMakin 1 hour ago
    I think this short story resonates because probably most people know an Aaron - the type that is incessantly looking for some kind of scheme, some kind of get rich quick thing, and will spend exponentially far more effort and misery suffered avoiding real employment than it would take actually just sucking it up and working, and often (usually) with much, much worse results. Yet they persist. A few of them become successful founders, probably, depending on their background. But most don't.
    • JohnMakin 1 hour ago
      When I was around that age, my Aaron was this kid who matched a similar description, very bright but utterly averse to any kind of work whatsoever, never finished his education, did okay in school but underperformed a lot.

      I remember a few of his dumbest schemes - one, he would get gift visa cards, run the balance down to pennies, then as a restaurant server for some crappy chain, would charge a customer with a big tip, put it on the drained card, and due to some weird quirk with the way they processed tips back then, the money would hit his paycheck before the decline would happen. I pointed out it was stupid easy to get caught by the bank and his restaurant but he insisted it was genius and foolproof. Got caught in a month or two, fired, nearly got in a lot of legal trouble but somehow got out of it.

      His all time dumbest 'scheme' was when a major automaker was going into bankruptcy at some point during the financial crisis, the stock was pennies. So he invested all his savings, some thousands of dollars, into buying the stocks. Even being so young and barely financially literate at that point I was aghast, tried to explain that when the bankruptcy finishes, his stock will be worth nothing. No, no, he assured me - imagine - this stock was $20 before, when it's $20 again I'll be a gazillionaire. I tried very very hard to convince him that was not correct and of course he lost everything. Shortly after he got into dealing marijuana but by that point I had determined he wasn't worth hanging out with anymore. No idea what happened to him.

      • tyre 1 hour ago
        What’s funny is that there was a bankrupt auto company that was memed back into existence. Hertz, by all logic, was absolutely doomed. Retail traders brought it back from near-certain liquidation and could have made a ton of money. Not sure how many actually sold.
        • JohnMakin 1 hour ago
          This was GM and as I roughly remember it there was no chance of this happening, because they just formed a new company and issued new stock after bankruptcy. Maybe hard for a young person at that time to understand, and the SEC probably shouldn't have allowed trading by the point he got into it, but it was all over the news and google was in its hayday, the information was easily available.
        • xp84 26 minutes ago
          That's a shame to hear about - Hertz is one of the shittiest companies I know. It would have been great for the world if they had been liqudated!
  • tyre 1 hour ago
    Fantastic writing, very well done. Every small, incremental decision is believable. You can see how the psychosis evolves.

    It made me think of Justin.tv, which was Justin Kan streaming himself. There weren’t betting markets, but today there would be.

    Twitch—what it ended up as–shows how much people crave community. Like other social media, there are many examples in chats of people with believed friendships and parasocial relationships with streamers. For smaller streams, sometimes these are real casual friendships. For larger ones, it’s the dark other side of Aaron.

    Anyway, I’m glad prediction markets didn’t exist in those days. I wish they didn’t now (we don’t need more outlets for gambling, in my opinion), but this was a great story nonetheless.

    • sarreph 1 hour ago
      Thank you for your kind words!
  • corndoge 2 hours ago
    I like it because each individual piece can happen and we probably all know people by now that have some aspect of Aaron - massive AI use, or into prediction markets, or live streaming, or just a friend who we have learned over time lacks scruples, or have watched them fade in response to life's challenges. The combination of all of these is then easy to imagine and that idea makes a good story.
    • sarreph 1 hour ago
      Thank you for reading it!
  • burningChrome 25 minutes ago
    Best line in the story:

    I had spent my whole life dreaming of making my own overnight success on the internet, but had taught someone with no ethics how to do it instead.

    This is such a great line and one I know so many people related to as soon as they read it.

    You're a great writer, thank you for this today.

    • DoctorOetker 2 minutes ago
      But that is also basically what most intellectual jobs are, workers telling their boss what to do while pretending they are receiving and executing commands.
  • greenfish6 2 hours ago
    Powerful. And written so well, I thought it was real at first, I even forgot about the "this is a short story at the top" and googled Aaron's different betting websites
    • sarreph 1 hour ago
      Thank you, very kind of you to say!
  • StilesCrisis 5 minutes ago
    Where did Aaron get the millions of dollars' worth of tokens from? The grannies?!?
  • doright 33 minutes ago
    Some people have always had qualities like Aaron's, and giving them tools like AI causes them to reveal themselves by virtue of becoming that much louder. Those problems are often unfixable regardless, as they are at the level of personality. What is fixable in comparison (but likely not in practice) is not inventing new ways of allowing them to hang themselves and others. But we will invent them anyway, because a promising idea cannot be left alone for long, and consequences will be suffered as a result.
  • mchaver 25 minutes ago
    I initially missed the line saying it was a short story and read through most of it as personal experience until the last couple of paragraphs. That made it even more exciting, but it is still very good as a fictional story.
  • ceroxylon 14 minutes ago
    Very good from start to finish, it reminds me of a darker version of the real story told in the 2009 documentary We Live In Public about Josh Harris.
  • samizdis 1 hour ago
    I clicked on the HN link and, when I saw "short story", almost closed the tab ... but I started to read anyway. I found it compelling and disturbing from start to finish. Much as my opinions about writing count for nothing, I truly hope that you poat any future works here. A great read.
  • curuinor 3 hours ago
    Murder is always systematically kind of a dramatic act. We are definitely going to get a prediction market murder in <5 years, I think.
    • 1dom 2 hours ago
      I learned about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_market in the early 2010s. It wasn't phrased like a prediction market focusing on when a person would die, but more like a bounty. If the bounty/pot got big enough, eventually it would be worth it for someone to do it.

      Even thinking/writing about this now, it still makes obvious sense and I'm surprised it hasn't been seriously made yet with crypto: if there's a pot of billions, contributed to by millions, the incentive becomes not just about the money, but the adoration, protection and power that would come with doing so many people a favour.

      • nemomarx 2 hours ago
        I think all the big targets for this kind of thing have the legal or government muscle to get in your way? Millions of people usually don't agree on someone dying unless they're powerful.
    • myhf 2 hours ago
      Every prediction market is an assassination market. They claim to trade on "information" but it's more like "influence", and easiest way to influence an event is usually by sabotage.
      • stronglikedan 2 hours ago
        a tale as old as time. e.g., fixing a fight or a game
    • cindyllm 1 hour ago
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  • arjie 25 minutes ago
    Strangely, doesn't load for me with some Vercel/NextJS error. Disabling Javascript displays the whole post, though.
  • whiteblossom 39 minutes ago
    For all the Aarons out there, I think it would be very interesting to hear your POV.
  • photonios 52 minutes ago
    Exceptionally well written! I was instantly hooked.
  • methodactor 25 minutes ago
    Enjoyed the story, kept me hooked. Reminded me of this site I saw the other day that someone posted about: https://app.crshmarket.com Prediction markets combined with livestreaming is so dystopian to me
  • john_strinlai 1 hour ago
    from your first post, a couple of days ago:

    >What I'm saying is: that the sum total of blog posts I have actually published (for myself, not for work) is zero.

    thanks for publishing this story. it kept me hooked throughout. i hope you continue to publish more.

    • sarreph 1 hour ago
      Ah - thanks! I aim to keep it up!
  • whiteblossom 1 hour ago
    Thank you for this piece! I'll be thinking about Aaron during lunch today.
    • sarreph 1 hour ago
      Thank you for your kind words.
      • unglaublich 1 hour ago
        Hey you don't have to reply to each comment with a generic reply. It's a fine piece sure but let's not inflate this thread x2 with just "thank you for your words".
  • shimman 1 hour ago
    Reminds me of the Black Mirror episode "Shut up and Dance."

    Great story and creating the character Aaron. You did an excellent job in making a very believable person that I think most of us have run into in tech adjacent spaces.

    • sarreph 1 hour ago
      I appreciate you referencing Charlie Brooker as he is undoubtedly a subconscious influence on my writing! Thanks for your comment.
  • alun 2 hours ago
    Very fun read. Thanks for posting it!
    • sarreph 1 hour ago
      Appreciate the comment :)
  • Mr_Eri_Atlov 1 hour ago
    Great story; it's amazing how many of us sympathize with or have had an Aaron in our lives.
  • variant_length 1 hour ago
    This guy aaron doesnt sound very smart to me
    • cute_boi 9 minutes ago
      I think he is smart and intelligent but lacks wisdom.
    • gpvos 1 hour ago
      There's a difference between intelligent and smart, the latter including being able to use your intelligence for a practical, real-life purpose, like improving your own life.
  • stephenlf 2 hours ago
    Spooky and riveting!
    • sarreph 2 hours ago
      Thank you very much.
  • 23david 2 hours ago
    Great short story!!
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  • moralestapia 2 hours ago
    Man this piece should win an Emmy or something, it's so original and well written. I also couldn't spot much AI in there. Props to the author.

    >rhythmically ejected spurts of bright red blood

    Yeah man, like in music, synesthesia, I get you.

    Unsurprisingly the author also makes music: https://rorz.io/music

    One of his songs is called "Do androids dream of real sheep?"

    What a fresh take on that classic quote! Made me spurt my kombucha, lol.

    How can someone be SO talented. Thanks for sharing.

    • sarreph 2 hours ago
      Such kind words…! I’m so honoured and humbled. Thank you.

      P.S. - I didn’t use LLMs to write it, no! :)

  • andai 2 hours ago
    > I thought Aaron’s credits would run out and that would be the end of it: he would finally get a job.

    Upon reading these words I experienced psychic damage from the blast of concentrated ambitionlessness.